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		<title>Comment on New TFW rules are politics, not good policy by Cynical Bard</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1103/comment-page-1#comment-3988</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical Bard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 13:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So how does one have a program to train workers when no workers will apply for the job. 

The original long comment seems to reflect the idea that any business is a bottomless pit of money, and can affordf to pay any amount for wages, and of course never has to raise their prices. 

We have seen examples of governments trying to stimulate the economy. Take th issue of green jobs, where we will all have good jobs with renewable power, yadda yadda.  Spain is a good example. An internal study, by a Spanish economist shows that every &quot;green job&quot; created destroyed two regular jobs.  Spain now has 27% unemployment .  Will more green jobs fix that problem. 

Ontario is rushing down that same road.  And the Feds will not answer a question about he energy efficiency of ethanol production, at least not showing enough details to know if they actually did a study.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how does one have a program to train workers when no workers will apply for the job. </p>
<p>The original long comment seems to reflect the idea that any business is a bottomless pit of money, and can affordf to pay any amount for wages, and of course never has to raise their prices. </p>
<p>We have seen examples of governments trying to stimulate the economy. Take th issue of green jobs, where we will all have good jobs with renewable power, yadda yadda.  Spain is a good example. An internal study, by a Spanish economist shows that every &#8220;green job&#8221; created destroyed two regular jobs.  Spain now has 27% unemployment .  Will more green jobs fix that problem. </p>
<p>Ontario is rushing down that same road.  And the Feds will not answer a question about he energy efficiency of ethanol production, at least not showing enough details to know if they actually did a study.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New TFW rules are politics, not good policy by Taliesyn</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1103/comment-page-1#comment-3985</link>
		<dc:creator>Taliesyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 17:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with your view is that you view the Canadian market as isolated from the rest of the world.  The current labour shortage in Alberta and Saskatchewan is very real (e.g. the free market is paying more than minimum wage for no skill jobs).  If we force business to pay ever more to lure unwilling Canadians across the country, to pay to retrain workers rather that putting that onus on the workers themselves, our industries will be uncompetitive compared to foreign operations.  If I can get a better return opening a factory in the US or India than Canada, I should do that.  Canada must try to outcompete the rest of the world.  Capital projects cannot afford to pay 10-15% more for labour - the economics don&#039;t support that and the investments won&#039;t happen.  Forcing small business to pay $15/hr to serve coffee is ridiculous.  They are forced to raise prices which makes all customers poorer while getting no added value.  

We need to consider Canada as part of the global market, and remember that increasing wages too fast isn&#039;t helping anyone in the long term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with your view is that you view the Canadian market as isolated from the rest of the world.  The current labour shortage in Alberta and Saskatchewan is very real (e.g. the free market is paying more than minimum wage for no skill jobs).  If we force business to pay ever more to lure unwilling Canadians across the country, to pay to retrain workers rather that putting that onus on the workers themselves, our industries will be uncompetitive compared to foreign operations.  If I can get a better return opening a factory in the US or India than Canada, I should do that.  Canada must try to outcompete the rest of the world.  Capital projects cannot afford to pay 10-15% more for labour &#8211; the economics don&#8217;t support that and the investments won&#8217;t happen.  Forcing small business to pay $15/hr to serve coffee is ridiculous.  They are forced to raise prices which makes all customers poorer while getting no added value.  </p>
<p>We need to consider Canada as part of the global market, and remember that increasing wages too fast isn&#8217;t helping anyone in the long term.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New TFW rules are politics, not good policy by W R</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1103/comment-page-1#comment-3983</link>
		<dc:creator>W R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 01:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The old TFW program had a rule that stated that companies could pay TFWs no less than 85% of the prevailing wage for a job in Canada.  This margin was intended to consider that the cost of finding and importing foreign labour was nontrivial, and that the total cost of hiring a TFW would not exceed the cost of employing a Canadian. 

The 15% (high skill) and 5% (low skill) wage variance was put into place to placate employers who complained that the LMI wage Service Canada used as the base wage for a TFW was too high and in some cases exceeded what they paid Canadians. To get approval to use the wage variance in the normal LMO process, the employer had to &quot;prove&quot; (and believe me that proof was negligible) to Service Canada that they employed ONE Canadian in the same job, making the same wage for which they were seeking a TFW. Then along came the ALMO process. Totally attestation based. Employers and their representatives were then automatically doffing 15% of the top because no proof was required. There is  also a little known piece of the program whereby employers can apply to cut TFW wages even further.
I will concede that that there are some labour shortages in certain high skilled trades and professions and for that the TFWP has a place. However, the so called &quot;labour shortage&quot; is by and large a colossal  scam. Someone has yet to explain to me what benefits there are to the economy and what new skills are being introduced to the Canadian labour market by hiring thousands upon thousands of TFWs to pour coffee and serve doughnuts.  Or for construction labourers that “must speak Punjabi”
Simply put, the mantra has become   &quot;If I build it, the government will supply the workers&quot;. 
This is not how you grow an economy. No consideration is given to the actual sustainability of a business or to paying a fair market wages to workers. The TFWP is a program which gives the employer unfettered access to foreign labour. The program sets the wage (based on limited data) and in the case of the wage variance allows the employers to cut those wages.  There is no enforcement mechanism or monitoring of basic program guidelines. Service Canada takes everyone’s word that they’re behaving themselves and treating their workers properly (how quaint).   All one has to do to qualify for the program is advertise the job for 2 weeks say no one applied,  have high turnover or say you can’t find a Canadian that is willing work at the government wage. That’s not a labour issue it’s a retention issue and if you want to retain workers you have to pay them more. That’s the cost of doing business in a market where workers are in high demand. The market will eventually sort out wages. The laws of supply and demand apply to the workforce too. Or is that for those “other” capitalists?  
I won’t even comment on the conduct of recruitment agencies, most of which are run by foreign nationals.  The TFWP is a license to print money.
I for one welcome the new guidelines there a good “first step”.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old TFW program had a rule that stated that companies could pay TFWs no less than 85% of the prevailing wage for a job in Canada.  This margin was intended to consider that the cost of finding and importing foreign labour was nontrivial, and that the total cost of hiring a TFW would not exceed the cost of employing a Canadian. </p>
<p>The 15% (high skill) and 5% (low skill) wage variance was put into place to placate employers who complained that the LMI wage Service Canada used as the base wage for a TFW was too high and in some cases exceeded what they paid Canadians. To get approval to use the wage variance in the normal LMO process, the employer had to &#8220;prove&#8221; (and believe me that proof was negligible) to Service Canada that they employed ONE Canadian in the same job, making the same wage for which they were seeking a TFW. Then along came the ALMO process. Totally attestation based. Employers and their representatives were then automatically doffing 15% of the top because no proof was required. There is  also a little known piece of the program whereby employers can apply to cut TFW wages even further.<br />
I will concede that that there are some labour shortages in certain high skilled trades and professions and for that the TFWP has a place. However, the so called &#8220;labour shortage&#8221; is by and large a colossal  scam. Someone has yet to explain to me what benefits there are to the economy and what new skills are being introduced to the Canadian labour market by hiring thousands upon thousands of TFWs to pour coffee and serve doughnuts.  Or for construction labourers that “must speak Punjabi”<br />
Simply put, the mantra has become   &#8220;If I build it, the government will supply the workers&#8221;.<br />
This is not how you grow an economy. No consideration is given to the actual sustainability of a business or to paying a fair market wages to workers. The TFWP is a program which gives the employer unfettered access to foreign labour. The program sets the wage (based on limited data) and in the case of the wage variance allows the employers to cut those wages.  There is no enforcement mechanism or monitoring of basic program guidelines. Service Canada takes everyone’s word that they’re behaving themselves and treating their workers properly (how quaint).   All one has to do to qualify for the program is advertise the job for 2 weeks say no one applied,  have high turnover or say you can’t find a Canadian that is willing work at the government wage. That’s not a labour issue it’s a retention issue and if you want to retain workers you have to pay them more. That’s the cost of doing business in a market where workers are in high demand. The market will eventually sort out wages. The laws of supply and demand apply to the workforce too. Or is that for those “other” capitalists?<br />
I won’t even comment on the conduct of recruitment agencies, most of which are run by foreign nationals.  The TFWP is a license to print money.<br />
I for one welcome the new guidelines there a good “first step”.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Result of Coddling the Children by Lauren sulkosky</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1020/comment-page-1#comment-3980</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren sulkosky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to say I really agree with this way of punishment I&#039;m 19 I graduated highschool early and 40% of the seniors that graduated with me dropped out! And a countless number of them barely graduated! It really pisses me off that people expect to be coddled apparently I had a severe learning disorder that my parents never even told me about... I mean as an adult no one is going to say hey you have dislexcia it&#039;s alright you don need to pay your taxes! Kids my age are so lazy I might be struggling to get by but I know my work will pay off]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say I really agree with this way of punishment I&#8217;m 19 I graduated highschool early and 40% of the seniors that graduated with me dropped out! And a countless number of them barely graduated! It really pisses me off that people expect to be coddled apparently I had a severe learning disorder that my parents never even told me about&#8230; I mean as an adult no one is going to say hey you have dislexcia it&#8217;s alright you don need to pay your taxes! Kids my age are so lazy I might be struggling to get by but I know my work will pay off</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Extremism that breeds Terrorists by Cynical Bard</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1097/comment-page-1#comment-3979</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical Bard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the RCMP have a program to attend mosques to see what they are teaching, and that they give 24 hours notice of the &quot;inspection&quot;.  

There  is a government funded school in Edmonton that is kind of suspect..........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the RCMP have a program to attend mosques to see what they are teaching, and that they give 24 hours notice of the &#8220;inspection&#8221;.  </p>
<p>There  is a government funded school in Edmonton that is kind of suspect&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Crash Course by Ira</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1092/comment-page-1#comment-3966</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to thank you for this recommendation.  I&#039;m very much enjoying their 42 episode series on World History, and I&#039;m learning quite a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to thank you for this recommendation.  I&#8217;m very much enjoying their 42 episode series on World History, and I&#8217;m learning quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Balancing Alberta&#8217;s Books by Davide</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1088/comment-page-1#comment-3929</link>
		<dc:creator>Davide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should add a new choice on their website: elect a Wildrose government. It would make the whole thing alot easier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should add a new choice on their website: elect a Wildrose government. It would make the whole thing alot easier.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alberta Health Services has too much management by old white guy</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1082/comment-page-1#comment-3928</link>
		<dc:creator>old white guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[far too many non productive paper pushers. fire one half of all paper pushers starting at the top.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>far too many non productive paper pushers. fire one half of all paper pushers starting at the top.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are they teaching our kids? by Ira</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1079/comment-page-1#comment-3926</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ll have to rely on the private sector to teach your kids geography.  I recommend Sporcle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to rely on the private sector to teach your kids geography.  I recommend Sporcle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are they teaching our kids? by Scott M</title>
		<link>http://www.technicalbard.com/archives/1079/comment-page-1#comment-3921</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.  I took a few courses at a local college a couple of years ago; keep in mind the young people in my classes were all in their mid-twenties. I was shocked how little they knew about provincial or federal politics or about the issues of the world around them. These are the same kids that will be running the place in a few years. They are unable to critically think for themselves and are poisoned by the propaganda foisted on them by a left wing media.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  I took a few courses at a local college a couple of years ago; keep in mind the young people in my classes were all in their mid-twenties. I was shocked how little they knew about provincial or federal politics or about the issues of the world around them. These are the same kids that will be running the place in a few years. They are unable to critically think for themselves and are poisoned by the propaganda foisted on them by a left wing media.</p>
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